Julia Gillard’s Baby Bonus

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Julia Gillard’s Baby Bonus

What kind of society gives $5,000 lump sum payments to women after an abortion?

What kind of society pays out parental leave schemes to mums and dads who have willingly killed their child?

And, just for the record, I’m not talking about the early abortions here. I’m talking about late-term abortions, when limbs are formed, the heart is pumping, pain is present and the child is viable.

The answer to those questions is simple. Our society.

And why not. If the government has no problem with the killing of a child, then why would it baulk at handing over great wads of taxpayer cash afterwards.

But hold on, I hear you cry. Where is the proof this happens?

It is below.  Our society also has an obliging bureaucracy to assist and facilitate these post-abortion payments.

So we have this helpful cheat sheet from an abortion clinic. It details what answers should be given to claim the Baby Bonus Bereavement Payment – a payment meant to assist parents who have suffered from the death of child.

And if there is one thing that a ‘Pregnancy Advisory Centre’ produces in abundance it is parents who have suffered from the death of a child.

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For a start, this sheet helpfully informs the mum that she may get a trifle teary while filling out a form for baby-related payments when she has just killed her baby.

I don’t know about you, but I think it might be upsetting for Australians everywhere to realise that their taxes are being spent this way.

Then it states that the doctor performing the ‘procedure’ will need to sign the form. Just in case you don’t have the actual Baby Bonus Bereavement Payment form handy, what it means is that the doctor will need to certify that the baby was delivered ‘stillborn’.

And just in case you don’t know, the ‘procedure’ to deliver a ‘stillborn’ baby at a ‘Pregnancy Advisory Centre’ involves slicing the clumps of cells that look like little limbs off from the other clumps of cells that bear a remarkable resemblance to a baby’s torso and trunk. Then the big clump of cells that looks like a head is crushed. Finally, they are all put in a plastic bag and sent off to a medical waste facility.

And if you can find a ‘doctor’ that is willing to do this, then you will find someone who has no ethical dilemma whatsoever in stamping a government form to certify that a baby he has just dismembered has been delivered ‘stillborn’.

Next, this cheat sheet moves into specifics.

Question 33 asks for the child’s surname.

Question 35 asks for the child’s sex.

It states on the cheat sheet that questions 36 and 37 require the date of the ‘procedure’. What the actual form asks for is the date of the child’s birth and the date of its death. No point letting actual words with actual meanings get in the way of some government cash. And suffice to say, at abortion clinics the dates are pretty much always the same.

Question 41 asks if the claim is for stillbirth.

Question 42 is a real doozy. It asks if the birth of the child has been registered.

Normal parents claiming the Baby Bonus must register the birth of the child. For anyone who hasn’t had a child and gone through this process, it involves more forms, a fee and several weeks’ wait for some guy in an office somewhere to send you back a piece paper that ‘proves’ your child has been born.

But if you’ve had an abortion and want to claim the cash, all you have to do is tick the not required box. As an added bonus you get to skip a heap of questions that others must trawl through, like whether the child was aged 16-24 or whether you are the parent of the child.

Question 106 asks if the post-abortion parent is claiming the Maternity Immunisation Allowance. According to Centrelink, this is a non-income tested payment to encourage parents to immunise children. Apparently abortion clinics see no problem in claiming the payment even if there is no child to immunise.

Question  107 asks if the post-abortion parents are claiming the Baby Bonus.

So what we have here is proof that the pro-abortion crowd is happy to call a ‘foetus’ a ‘baby’ when it suits them. Like when money is involved.

And in exchange for dropping your foetus off at the Pregnancy Advisory Centre, you will be helpfully handed a cheat sheet detailing how you can claim a payment for a dead baby.

There is one other question not detailed on the cheat sheet that is worthy of examination. It is question 110 and it asks whether the post-abortion parent wants fortnightly payments or just one big lump sum. Just so you’re aware, parents of actual living children don’t get that second option.

Finally, while most of this cheat sheet has dealt with the Baby Bonus, it also makes it abundantly clear that Paid Parental Leave is also a claimable option following abortion.

And seeing as Julia Gillard was so happy to raise abortion as an election issue, she might just want to explain to the rest of us Australians why she deserves to be elected when her government oversees this absolutely evil system.

 

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This information has been provided to me by a family hurt by abortion.

If you are struggling with support options to deal with pregnancy or the grief of abortion, there are many organisations that can assist. Just some are:

  • The Priceless Life Centre 1800 090 777
  • Rachel’s Vineyard 1800 063 510.

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Discussion

  1. Fiona  June 25, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Taken directly from the Victorian Crimes Act Victoria Crimes Act http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca195882/ Crimes Act 1958 – SECT 82 Obtaining financial advantage by deception 82. Obtaining financial advantage by deception (1) A person who by any deception dishonestly obtains for himself or another any financial advantage is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to level 5 imprisonment (10 years maximum). (2) For purposes of this section deception has the same meaning as in section 81. The decision to keep a child with any issue surrounding it will always, in the end, be an easier decision than the decision to terminate it. And, if keeping the child is really not possible, adopt it out and turn a bad situation into a joyous one for someone else. Our society likes to focus on the positives. What could be more positive than this? Those who choose the latter decision and claim the baby bonus (quite rightly not called foetus bonus) are fraudulent. They are no different to those who deliberately destroy a troublesome car and then cash in on a dollar-laden insurance policy. I object to MY hard earned tax dollars being so atrociously and so freely dispensed.

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  2. Kat  June 25, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Nice work Bernard, now lets see how the pro- abortionists, Emiliys list, feminists get out of this one. progressive society hey? I think this calls for a royal commission.

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    • Kellie  June 25, 2013 at 7:01 pm

      Im a Feminist and find it abhorrent.

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  3. Bob  June 25, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    Firstly, is this real? Surely in our modern society every paper form lives on a website. Where is this link? Secondly, if it is real, is it current? That yellow paper looks like it wasn’t printed yesterday. Thirdly, have you ever considered the possibility that in some cases abortions can be medically advisable? Through no fault and no choice of her own, a mother may have to terminate her pregnancy for a number of morbidly real and heartbreaking reasons? This mother who was expecting a child may have prepared for the birth and bought a bunch of items for the nursery as well as clothes and all the things you do for your child. Do you not find it reasonable that the government support her through this hard time and allow her to claim on the payment she would have been entitled to if not for her tragic circumstance? I’m sure the system is set up to allow these sort of women the support they need – if they choose to take it up, and yes they probably will find some of the questions pretty hard to deal with. I’m sure these mythical women who are having abortions and earning money for the pleasure are very rare indeed and are lying to slip through the cracks in the system – if they even exist at all still.

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    • Katy  June 25, 2013 at 3:12 pm

      “Do you not find it reasonable that the government support her through this hard time” Enough with the welfare! It’s not the govt’s (aka the taxpayer’s) responsibility to pay every tom dick and harry for whatever hardships they face!

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    • joel  June 25, 2013 at 7:39 pm

      oh it’s real, and it is disgusting providing money to a mother whom aborts her child.

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    • pedr davis  June 25, 2013 at 10:46 pm

      Start here: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/bereavement-payment

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    • Siobhan  June 27, 2013 at 12:36 am

      It is real: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/forms/fa008m

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  4. Kat  June 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Bob, “Through no fault and no choice of her own, a mother may have to terminate her pregnancy for a number of morbidly real and heartbreaking reasons?” um a woman does have a choice, and her baby should be given the right to live. “This mother who was expecting a child may have prepared for the birth and bought a bunch of items for the nursery as well as clothes and all the things you do for your child. ” So in your argument you highlight that the mothers of these terminated children aknowledge that thy are indeed carrying a child, and in doing so, buy clothes and nursery items. ” Do you not find it reasonable that the government support her through this hard time and allow her to claim on the payment she would have been entitled to if not for her tragic circumstance”. it is deplorable that a government fund the termination, or murder rather,of a child through medicare, discriminate against them because of disability, wrong timing or sex, etc and then give money to the mother as a reward.

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    • Kate  September 20, 2014 at 1:41 pm

      Kat, I find your comments extremely offensive. I don’t think that anyone is able to judge a woman who has had a medical termination unless they have been in the same situation. Please think before you make your deplorable statements. They are upsetting. As hard as it was for my husband and I to make a decision to induce our baby early so she would have a short life knowing only our love instead being delivered at full term only to a short life of pain, I know I did what was best for our little girl. I hope you, or anyone else, will never be in a position to have to make such a heartbreaking decision. However, the reality is that many people go through this, we just don’t hear enough about it to assist and comfort us because of the fear of the comments and judgements from people such as yourself and others who have posted on this website.

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  5. Dallas Beaufort  June 25, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    More evidence Labor’s green policies fail the nation, to suit their nanny state left wing’s sustainable dictates.

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  6. Robyn  June 25, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Just for the record, this woman was carrying a healthy baby boy. The reason for this family speaking about this situation is because they are very upset that they were given no information on the gestation and sex of the baby, nor were they informed of how the procedure would be carried out and were not offered any support services. This mother was also illiterate unable to read the forms she was to sign, which was just read to her by the social worker at the abortion clinic. This baby was aborted late last year 2012. The parents found out the gestation and sex of the baby when they were send the baby bonus information pack. The mother was given no counseling by the abortion clinic, which proudly performs the majority of South Australia’s 5,000 abortions a year. Known as the Pregnancy Advisory Clinic. They will not call a baby a baby, nor a mother a mother, they will not show the mother the ultra sound of her baby WHY?. This is not informed consent, and this is just a killing mill, funded by the Federal Government. The Government pays for a woman to kill her unborn baby through the abortion procedure and then she gets a bonus of $5,000 for good measure. This is totally insane. And will the media have the courage to report this story, even when the family is willing to share the horrible pain and loss they are experiencing through this whole terrible tragedy? The answer is a simple NO! Will our Politicians Liberal, Labor, Greens do anything to stop this murder? NO. They support it and endorse it.

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  7. Swhite  June 25, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    It would be interesting to know if a mother aborts a baby naturally after 20 weeks if she still receives the baby bonus?

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    • Bern  June 26, 2013 at 1:53 am

      I believe my baby who naturally aborted at 36 weeks was entitled to baby bonus etc. We had gone so far I was even entitled to maternity leave from my gov’t job in a politician’s office. And I do believe it is no less of a child to us and there are funeral costs, grief counselling and so much trauma that goes on. For me it was like a daylight robbery, perfectly healthy one, dead that night. Whoever the new gov’t is, they really need to review this matter with some charity. I still had to pay my hospital and OB fees so I think as a parent with a naturally occurring abortion, I think we need the same treatment as those who have a live baby. Fortunately we have gone on and had 5 beautiful, healthy children. There were funeral costs, burial, grave and ongoing counselling cost.

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  8. Bern  June 26, 2013 at 1:44 am

    The real problem is the misuse of the term abortion. When my first born was still born at 36 weeks due to the placenta breaking away, the autopsy came back with the term abortion describing the death of the child. We were able to get some gov’t payments for this. There is still a funeral and burial costs. However I see you are speaking about a very different case. What we really need is a private members bill in the federal parliament to change the definition of abortion to medically induced abortion and naturally occurring abortion. This would change the way the stats are recorded for medically induced terminations and naturally occurring abortion. Happy to speak to someone who wants to take up the cause if they want to email me. I think a change in terminology would clear up alot of grief for many people too with the confusing of babies dying naturally and those that a doctor has terminated the life of.

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  9. Bern  June 26, 2013 at 1:47 am

    http://www.victimsofabortion.com.au/ Anne Lastman runs a great service for abortion counselling from Victoria. Might like to add it to your post abortion counselling services.

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  10. Dave  June 26, 2013 at 8:00 am

    This is a pretty sad state of affairs, as a divorced dad with two kids this makes my skin crawl. My take on the above is that you can terminate a baby after 20 weeks and receive a payout for bereavment even if it was your choice to terminate the pregnancy, if that is the case we are literally paying people to kill babies on a whim which I think is a pretty poor way our society is progressing. What I would like to know was when so called payment was enacted into law and who was responsible, can anyone advise?

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    • Libby  June 26, 2013 at 12:34 pm

      The legacy of Peter Costello and John Howard… Don’t blame Julia – she is scrapping the baby bonus. I think the South Australian Government needs a stern talking too as well – they are telling people how to claim frauduently.

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      • Jim from Boomba  June 26, 2013 at 6:02 pm

        Libby – you have no shame and are a liar – lying shamelessly in respect of a matter that is as horrific as it is sickening. The purpose of Howard’s baby bonus was to provide funds for people who chose to have children. It was sensitive enough, however, to also provide funding for those unfortunate parents who lost a child through the sad circumstances of natural death, where the unborn child died past 21 (?) weeks gestation. It was NEVER designed to provide funds for women who murdered their own unborn children through procured, induced abortion. The fact that the LEFT has seized upon this payment and manipulated it with a breathtaking cynicism that is equal to that of Hitler or Lenin, to benefit and reward women who choose to murder unborn children, says everything you need to know about the left – they are beyond contempt. The fact that the leaflet was put out by the ALP SA government says everything you need to know about the state of the ALP in Australia – it is a party of sick, miserable, condemnable people who are completely devoid of both conscience and moral compass. In addition, I believe this SA governmental institution is guilty of advocating fraud – I hope this is followed up by the relevant authorities. I hope anyone associated with this appalling scandal is charged with fraud or fraud-related offences – including SA public servants and relevant governmental ministers who have promoted this stomach-churning public scam. And I hope every cent that has been paid out under these circumstances is recovered from the women to whom the murder of their own children was never enough – oh, no: they wanted 30 pieces of silver as well.

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  11. trevor  June 26, 2013 at 9:27 am

    The govt form says it all. Speaking to others about this, they are appalled that this is actually happening. By the way, how can a place be called a ‘Pregnancy Advisory Centre’ when they do abortions? As Robyn said this death mill does 5,000 killings a year, so if this is the case, it doesn’t sound that they are doing a very good job at advising women in their pregnancies — except to kill their child — and, if it is late term, get paid for it!

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    • Di Panetta  July 5, 2013 at 10:25 pm

      Who needs Hitler, Himmler, Goebbles etc….they are right here in our Government.

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  12. Teresa McKinley  June 29, 2013 at 11:39 am

    From what goverwnt source do you get this information ?

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  13. Annie  July 23, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    I’d like a link to these benefits so I can read them clearly myself, and then I’d love to see any rebuttals. This is putrid beyond compare. We cannot possibly be giving people bereavement money, after they abort.

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